Enlightenment - East and West both wrong

2007-12-06T00:45:00.000-08:00

Is enlightenment possible? Or is Christianity the answer? Or has science replaced both?

Discourse with Mr Travers, Agnostic and Mr Kok Tho, 7th Day Adventist

Mr Travers:

And this it seems to me may all be resolved by coming back to a discourse between East and West - Hindu-Buddhism and Christo-Judaism.

Is enlightenment possible, this person existing who is one with the universe so that in effect they have become god, know themselves totally, self realised, in effect perfect? I have searched and met many claiming this, none have passed the test according to my understanding of the definition of enlightenment. Some like the Dalia Lama certainly exude an incredible peace and spiritual truth, Sia Baba and Amma the Mother also have highly elevated souls. But all have human flaws. Others I have not met like Paramahansa Yogananda and Sri Prubhupad also appear close to Godstate from simply reading their words. So there do appear to be levels of enlightenment, but this complete finished state of perfection in the human being does not seem possible. I have not met Satyananda, but I doubt that in my understanding of enlightenment that he has achieved this for the following reasons.

I have tried to reach this state, as I said I have seen others claim it and they are all not God nor perfect to me. It simply logically is not possible in an imperfect world like this - all must at some stage fall or fail to reach a state where you are permanently connected to God such that in effect you are no longer the self, no longer your body, in effect have become God. Are at one with this creation and are in effect the totality, have become everyone and everything. No it seems in the end you have to face this world as an individual. Separate always - though dependent on the totality of the creation - a sort of quasi-individuality linked to oneness. Though it does appear that the link to oneness can become very elevated through spiritual practices.

As close as it comes to perfection, because it can never be perfectly obtained, means that to actually claim having reached this state of perfection-enlightenment or to claim it exists even, appears to be claiming a falsity. And that is why it seems to me traditional Yoga does not work in the end. That is why I have always ended up leaving or being asked to leave those ashrams, because they are trying to become something that as close to the truth as it is, is ultimately unachievable. An exception of sorts is the Hare Krisna movement which represents this theology of enlightenment though differing from other yoga systems in the respect of believing like Christians that God is forever external to the creation. But Satyananda appears to see that God is us and in the creation and in fact we can become fully connected to God by self realisation - hence it is so appropriate that the cosmic mind has connected me to them. Perhaps to resolve this theological philisophical conundrum.

In attempting to accept the absurd probably explains why I have felt incomplete or frustrated myself whilst staying at ashrams and often been led into behaving in an ungentlemanly way. Still if I had loved the Yoga organisations and what they stood for I would have been happy to do anything for them. I even offered a full surrender to several yogic organisations, including Satyananda (to Atma in 2002) but they could not understand what I was doing, largely because I believe they did not fully understand dicha or spirituality, or else thought I was not ready or right for their organisation. I was accepted by Osho's commune for sannyas well before this in 1994, but later rejected them as false.

The concept of enlightenment simply has to be false. I have written this before. And now I propose to explain exactly why it cannot work. Very simply, it is an imperfect world and as such that state can never be reached. Christianity says we can only do it through the sacrifice of the son of god - I assume symbolically this means through the death of our self centred ego and surrender to the cosmic self - God or the collective will. Through the grace of god and not our own works.

The theological issue hampering me is Hindu-Buddhists, it seems to me, have yet to fully work out the issue of grace - that acts cannot perfect us to the perfect state of God in an imperfect universe.

And this is what appears to me as false about Satyananda and Hinduism. Meditate enough and you can become God; it was not really receiving God through grace in the form of the holy spirit. Hindu's were diy (do it yourself) spiritualists.

Yet was there not an hypocrisy in Christianity also, in the form of logic, to accept God's grace in the form of Christ's sacrifice to redeem one's fallen soul, it seemed deceitfully enough acts or works were required, such as at least the act or good work of accepting Christ, who then supposedly acted through the convert. So in effect they seemed to be lying, as an act was required to gain salvation. So it appeared works were required to get to the pearly gates after all and receive the nod from St Peter. Or else it was a steep descent back to earth or to the more fearsome eternal hell realms forever - gnashing one's teeth in the lake of flames of rage?

The sad thing is Christianity appears not the truth either. Though at least it acknowledges that we cannot redeem (become perfect) ourselves by our own actions. It is only through grace. But it seems that is logically flawed as well, as 'actions' are in fact required to accept and later follow grace.

I return to Christianity because their concept of grace cannot be rejected so quickly without analysing its new concept of forgiveness, which also seems missing in the Eastern faiths - at least to the extent it is essential for Christianity. I digress to explain some basics of Christian faith. A pew is a place where you go to quietly meditate and reflect and pray in a church. It is the place, the seat where you rest your weary soul in a congregation of like minded people, in order to repent your weekly sins. Atone - ask for forgiveness. The family is the church or congregation. And the news is something recent and unknown - hence Jesus is the good news of the New Testament of the coming of the kingdom of God.

Forgiveness is necessary as a part of grace, because if I acknowledge to God that I can never be perfect or become God, the only means I can reconcile this to God is by simply bowing down in forgiveness for my sin of imperfection. It is only by grace that God accepts this sole act of reconciliation. This surrender to our imperfect state of sin. If I have an attitude of forgiveness and love to this object then perhaps God will reveal how to deal with this life and show me what I am meant to be doing. But if I try to work it out myself, through 'my egoistic acts', then I am not in grace - I am not accepting my imperfect state, I am not asking for forgiveness to the creator. And as I am insignificant in relation to the whole I will fail. In retrospect this implies that my attempt here in this discourse must be also doomed to failure if I am attempting to work it out myself and not acting through God. This gives rise to a certain circularity in logic that suggests the concept of acting oneself to realise God, or understand or reconcile with God is not going to work because it is coming from the ego, is false. Because to make such an attempt even through one's own will is regardless an act to reconcile with God and carries with it an admission of the imperfection that is being attempted to be resolved.

Jesus offers that final sacrifice of unconditional love to humanity, to end all sacrifices to redeem us from sin or failure to overcome temptation. Our acceptance of this act of God in human form redeems us once and for all. Our request through accepting his act of giving up his life for us and so admitting and asking for forgiveness by God for being imperfect, allows us to then give up our own life for God. The self or ego then should be under the guidance of God through Christ. Hence born again on accepting Christ. By our act of accepting this act of Christ we enter grace and are guided by grace and no longer by our own acts.

However, I state again, to me this is a deception as these are still acts - an act of following grace. We still seem to have to act or do acts and by our own will. Even if the acts are no longer our own acts but those of God now acting through us such that we cannot claim the credit or merit of the works ourself and the work itself and its results are seen and become a gift from God, then what of free will and what of the Christian's ability to later renounce Christ? It still seems that some individual control is there and control over those acts such that they are not completely those of God but also of us and our works.

In fact is Christ necessary to renounce the self or ego and surrender our imperfection to God? Is it necessary for him to have died on the cross to free us from our ego? Can we surrender our self for God and have God act through us by simply making that choice, as the Buddhists and Hindus would have us believe - albeit through intense spiritual practices to transcend or more mundanely via good works accumulating good karma? Did Christ in truth simply reap his bad karma for falsely claiming he was God and condemning those to eternal hell who would not believe and follow him?

What of the crucial act of asking forgiveness for our imperfection? [symbolically made by accepting the death of the son of God (our human individual ego) as the price for our imperfection] Is it necessary? Do we have to apologise to God for not being good enough? After all he created us like that if he exists - or she or it. So it would seem somewhat redundant to apologise to God for creating us the way it made us. In fact could even be construed as an insult to God or a lack of gratitude. In fact the concept only can make sense if the rebellion by Satan is thrown in, the original sin of Adam's apple and we are one of the rebels who now has to apologise to get back into heaven. Logically that even collapses if God is all powerful for if he was such he would in a way have created the rebellion or could have stopped it, but he did not, so in a way he is party to the rebellion himself and so must have wanted it that way and so to apologise for what he wanted is again a form of insult to God.

And if evolution is true we were never in the garden of Eden as such, we slowly evolved from Chimps, who we can now witness as far from being saintly innocent creatures naked in the garden, in fact fight and war with each other and dominate through harems to pass on genes of the strongest male. And they evolved from even less intelligent and more brutal animals. Hence fundamentalist Christians hate evolution, because there seems no point in time where we were perfect and then committed the original sin against God to be redeemed by a sacrifice or apology to God. Unless one has to apologise for the first DNA replicating protein for forming life by reproducing itself in vanity and disobedience to God. But again omniscient God must have willed that act, so an apology to God would again cause offence to the Supreme for what should be more thanked with gratitude for giving us the opportunity to live.

Even if evolution theory is not accepted, in fact by the imperfect nature of this universe it would never have been possible to have perfection here, so Eden and the resulting original sin cannot have ever existed in this universe. Furthermore even the most basic understanding of modern physics virtually makes Genesis creation of the universe redundant and a primitive myth at best. And if Christian belief is flawed from its concept of creation logic would suggest that that underlying flaw would remanifest throughout the entire belief system so making it at best highly inaccurate and at worst completely false.

So has science made Christianity redundant? And the Eastern faiths, are they the truth? Can we perfect ourselves through our acts in an imperfect world and become God self realised - egoless divine beings directed perfectly by god - enlightened?

Even without Christian theology logic would seem to say no. An imperfect universe could not have perfection in it. It would be a contradiction - a paradox. If this was allowed in an isolated part of the whole, then that part would have to be separated from the whole and as we understand the universe all parts are dependent on each other. So either the whole thing is perfect or imperfect; it cannot exist in a combination of the two. And this probably comes down to quantum theory, of observation or perception determining reality - particle or wave, but not both. A choice is required made by the decision of the observer to measure the object as a particle or as a wave. Observe it as such and it becomes that. So is a particle perfection and a wave imperfection? Or viceversa? A question of relaivity my comrades. You make the choice on that score me thinks. But it appears to me it has to be one or the other - we are either all perfect or all imperfect. We see all waves or all particles but not both. And we can change it according to our own free will between one or the other based on how we observe it. This is the science.

Superstring theory goes further to state that there is no singularity and never can be, the universe was never at a unified point of oneness not even at the point of the big bang. The maths of this universe is such that space can never diminish to less than a Max Planck length. This means that the concept that we are all unified and one at some point outside of time as Hinduism suggests is untrue. The science suggests though interconnected we are and were always eternally separate in this universe.

Quantum uncertainty theory states a particle exists in a certain location as a probability only. The more one tries to pin point it the momentum of it becomes more uncertain. So even our attempts to observe in a certain way an object are subject to limitations or uncertainties due to the inherent inseparability of events and objects in the universe.

However, the constraints on our free will to make observations one way or the other, and the extent they are dictated to by the intrinsic holistic nature of an interconnected universe is beyond my ability to comprehend. Other than to say free will is limited as a result of this interdependence, hence so our observations are limited by our environment and this seems to be dependent on our prior and current actions, and so would support the karmic cause and effect nature of reality, and the Eastern view that 'acts' do make the future good or bad, more perfect or less. But to a state of absolute perfection in an individual, that seems to be dependent on the individual being able to will the whole to becoming such. And if that is enlightenment in an individual then it seems to be nothing more than exercising continuous will power to consistantly see the universe only as perfect. Whether this concept is flawed or not I cannot say. I will try it, experimentally, but at the moment it seems to me that this perfection comes in meticulously obeying rules of order and honesty. Order being perfect, chaos imperfect. But is this a deception?

Chaos theory may well disprove the concept that order is perfection - as Chaos ultimately has order. And this may again come down to relativistic perception of reality dependent on the observer's mind and desires - one observer may see chaos another order. The objective nature of reality and truth may be more a result of a collective state of flux that is ultimately based on subjective observation statistically evened out by mass observation and concurrence of data. So chaos may be perfection dependent on the experimental parameters and methodology of measurement. And as a corrollary order could therefore be imperfection.

Uncertainty theory as to the unstable nature of particles even when observed as such - the probabilistic nature of them - again implies our free will to observe and create is limited. Even if we want to see a particle instead of a wave, and we chose experimental conditions and methods to so achieve that, we still are limited in the extent we can observe the particle. The particle can be reduced to no more than a probability function of existing at a certain place and time due to its wave function. So wave and particle can never be fully separated as much as they can never fully be observed as both. And so it may be with perfection and imperfection. They are dependent on each other, and the more one attempts to locate perfection the more uncertain its location becomes, the more uncertain its existence becomes and the more aspects of its imperfect nature appear due to the intrinsic relationship between the two polarities.

Therefore is it a nonsense to even discuss perfection or enlightenment? It certainly has dominated theology. To achieve perfection in one self would seem to manifest or amplify imperfection in the external or others due to the interconnected nature of the universe. One result maybe the external or others seeing one as more imperfect - hcnce many saints and mystics labelled as mad.

So I return to Proj Eden. It seems to me I am being directed by God to create this perfect Utopia in an attempt to purify humanity for heaven. But there is something missing in the attitude of grace in my attempts to create. Some form of failure in humility or forgiveness that is pervading my actions, which suggests my actions are failing because they are egoistic or self directed rather than divine or surrendered to God. But if God requires no forgiveness then it may be that I am not failing. It is simply I am observing in a way that manifests a delusion of failure that then becomes a reality of failure. And all that is required is a change of perspective. But that is not the full story because as we know about particles observation does influence results drastically, however there are still limitations on the results in which the observer sees - the particle never being able to be fully seen as such due to its wave function. So it appears that there are limitations on observing or creating and so this logically must also apply to becoming perfect. The most obvious limitation being the environment or whole on my observations affecting my freewill. Therefore my interrelationship to the external to by freewill act in a manner that manifests divine will or the will of the whole - which by definition must be perfection - is restricted by the imperfection of the external whole which I cannot separate from. This external universe of seeming imperfection as a totality must be an expression of the divine will in itself, so to resist it or not see it as such, to view it as imperfection, and try and overcome it by creating perfection in oneself or linking to an external divine will to be guided through it, would seem to misunderstand it. A mere desire to see it as perfect is not enough, the attempt in itself will manifest imperfection due to the inherent inseparability of the concepts. An attempt to become perfect will also give rise to the same contradiction. An attempt to bring humanity to that state as a whole must also cause the same conflict. In other words because I am attempting to bring humanity to perfection the exact opposite is manifesting to prevent it - imperfection being an inherent part of perfection. And the closer I come to it the more the uncertainty in the project manifests, the more it wants to fail and resist, the more the imperfect tries to destroy its creation in order to maintain the statistical norm of humanities progress; even to the point that the spiritual communities on this path resist in order to keep the status quo. Am I trying to achieve the impossible by purification in an imperfect universe? It would seem so.

However as I have said, there appear to be definite levels of imperfection and perfection that can be obtained though subject to a degree of relativity based on definitions of perfection. And if this is possible for an individual it should also be possible for more than one, and therefore humanity as a whole. So whilst an attempt to make humanity perfect may be unachievable, an attempt to bring humanity to a more pure state of peace, harmony and greater wisdom and intelligence would not seem to be unachievable, and despite its elements of perfectionism within it is most probably a worthwhile pursuit - if not the most worthwhile pursuit that man (not gender specific) could journey towards as a goal for humanity.

To rectify any flaws in logic or wisdom in my discourse that I am not aware of and so assisting me in acting in the most beneficial way for the mass of humanity, I am begging you as a daughter or son of God; tell me where I have gone wrong or if I have not then give up your life and come to me and create this utopia.

On the basis I am wrong I will now again attempt to make the full surrender to the guru - master.

I offer all my possessions both material, body, mind and spirit to the organisation God represents.

I have about $800 in the bank and a few possessions in boxes and a backpack. They are all Gods.

My body, mind and spirit, I offer as best I can to God.

If my guru be Jesus Christ then please accept this and bring me home. Or help me resolve this theological issue of enlightenment, so that I can follow and find the truth and be happy? And find my home and hopefully my wife and family.

I am enduring a lot of pain.

Think very carefully how you direct me next.

I would hope it would lead to immense love.

I am familiar enough with spirituality to understand our interconnectedness.

From an egoless perspective of unity, there should be no difference between us. In other words I have had your incarnation and you have had mine. This is simply a meeting of the one self, atma, across time. Excepting that current superstring theory states at the moment of the big bang the universe was never completely unified as a singularity where we were at one time all one at one dimensionless point - there was a limit and that being the minute Max Planck length - the universe manifested into being from that size from the appearance of a single looped vibrating string of energy which exploded into being unleashing the four rolled out dimensions of space and time, seven dimensions of space remaining rolled up to the present day.

Still we came close enough to being one so that for the purposes of harmony we can probably state we were one then. And even if we were never completely joined it was so close that it probably makes no difference to see us as one or at the very least make that assumption for the purposes of empathising and understanding my fellow man and this creation as a whole. So put simply if I treat you as myself, I should only want the best for you. And in truth vice versa.

I believe you want to treat me with respect. That you do not want a repetition of the negative past experiences. That you want a positive outcome for both of us.

I am still seeking a partner and wife to have children. I am being truthful.

This partner must be spiritual, vegetarian-vegan-raw, yogic, drug (alcohol/tobacco) free, tallish 5'8", less than 35 about 30, good figure, intelligent and on a solid foundation as regards the truth. Must want to have children and marry soon. Must be pretty.

If she is not with you please use your prayer powers to direct me to her.

I will be forever in your debt if you succeed in doing this for me.

In return I will offer whatever will best make you happy.

Mr Kok Tho:

Dear James,

God ( The Father ) draws your precious soul to Himself through His Son Jesus Christ.
And Jesus shares Himself with you, personally....
Through that one death and that one resurrection, which He wrought in His life.
He is the Door.... the Portal thru which you cross:
From death to life
From the carnal to the divine
From being evil to being righteous
From selfish fears to selfless love
When you desire His life ( values/character ) so very much,
but find that you have failed to bring it about in your own life,
When you wish to identify with everything that is Him and give up on everything that is of your old self,
You can take your full share in His death and His resurrection,
He is your Door to His life.... for you.
And so it is said that when God draws your soul to Himself, He cuts self from your soul
That you may have the strength of His selfless love.
Christ is the only Way

May God bless you

Mr Travers:

Dear Kok Tho,

Thankyou for your advice. I am to a degree in hell. I think that would be a fair summation given the nightmares I am having in the YHA sleeping in dormatories with, in my opinion, young men who have not established a proper moral foundation for their lives. Unfortunately unless I get the answer exactly right I will be remaining there. It would be easy for me to simply ask you to let me work for you and escape a vile Melbourne. But my powers of prediction detect that something is wrong in this solution. I know I am being drained at the moment. But I am so acutely aware of the position I am in that I cannot make another mistake. 43 years of errors, many very painful ones have put me in this position because so many times I have weakened and hoped that the answer was the truth and I have been wrong. And the test has become more and more unpleasant, until I can virtually not tolerate it anymore. When one's own family, brother, sister, mother and father turn against one for following a path of virtue, when one's friends do the same, when one is left isolated, unemployed, homeless, for not compromising the truth and for seeking universal love one really wonders if this is actually an evil planet.

I have tried many times to surrender to Christ. All have failed. I can only put it that we are all Christ. Sons and daughters of the divine just veiled from that awareness. To me Jesus came to show us how to attain this godstate. I used to believe that that state was the same as Hindu-Buddhist enlightenment but for the reasons I sent you I now doubt that. And also for the reasons I sent I doubt Christianity's explanation. I am sorry to say that I did not find your response satisfactory in answering my questions on perfection and grace and forgiveness - nor in addressing modern science, evolution, and the Bible's creation story and clear faults in it. My experience with Adventists is that they are literalists in interpreting the bible despite almost all denominations accepting it as largely metaphorical due to the acceptance of clear proof from science - this includes even the most conservative and resistant to change Christian church - Catholicism (many scientists paid with their life for going against this church, Galilio was jailed for asserting the Earth went round the Sun and more so proving it, you may laugh at this now, but is not the Adventist church still advocating that the planet is only 6500 years old for the simple stubborn reason that an ancient text's geneology can be traced back to that date as the time of Genesis; many Adventists have likened the Catholic's to the anti-Christ, but to my mind it is the Catholics who have now accepted (albeit very reluctantly and only as a result of overwhelming evidence to support such a change - similar dare I say to accepting Galilo's truth of the spatial relationship of the Earth to the Sun) the truth while the Adventists are clinging on to redundant teachings about the age of the Earth and by stating Catholicism is the Beast in a way against the teachings of even Jesus by making spurious and hostile claims against the Catholic church on a rather biased and dubious interpretation of Revelations, rather than accepting Jesus' teachings of love and compassion for all and seeing all the Christian churches as part of Jesus and so trying to work together to bring people out of evil and into love). It is only the extreme evangelical and cult churches that reject the new science.

Why has Christianity collapsed in the last 100 years in the West? Because science has largely disproven it and most of the churches now admit it but cling on by reducing the bible to a metaphor of the good way. But as a metaphor that is fairly inaccurate according to modern science why even have an inaccurate metaphor? Hence as people's education levels have gone up they have simply said it no longer serves a useful purpose and much the same as they ended up dumping the Roman and Greek gods for Christianity, they are dumping Christianity en masse. In fact the only Christian groups gaining followers are those that have rejected the metaphorical approach and stuck to fundamentalism - largely to avoid corruption, because they saw the good moral values of Christianity collapsing with the Church - and to an extent they have rescued the Church by upholding those values. But I am afraid at the price of logic, because to uphold their faith they have had to return to the literal truth of a book that has by science been proved false - specifically Genesis. The only means that seems over long periods of time to accurately produce consistent proof, in fact is a requirement before a theory can be accepted and is always open to disproof and further alterations to the theory is science. This is why science has surpassed Christianity in the West as a system or method to trust and live by. The majority of the population in Australia either are not religious or at such a nominal level as to be the equivalent. However as you are well aware the society is somewhat in a spiritual vacuum and without morality social problems are very high, because science has not offered an effective moral code of conduct. A kind of hedonism reigns. Hence in desperation people, including scientists and myself, are turning back to religion. This in fact is the reason I am contacting you and because of the Adventist Health message of vegetarianism. Even here I feel the Adventists have missed the point of vegetarianism. Yes it is more healthy for the body, but the prime motivation is not to cause death or suffering to another animal or life out of compassion and love for all life. This is the main motivation of the Eastern religions. It is one of complete compassion and selflessness to avoid others suffering including lesser creatures. This is an essential step to unconditional universal love. Adventists have missed the point here, focusing on the human self's good health and so are still basing their vegetarianism on a selfish human basis. They have not really acknowledged the divinity of all life because they have the underlying teaching of Genesis that God created everything for humans to use and dominate. A very patriarchal world view based on a text that scientifically does not stand up to proof and has been replaced by far more cogent mathematical and physical interpretations of creation. I was drawn to Eastern faiths due to my interest in physics as latest findings in Quantum physics were confirming the Taoist interpretation of matter and energy and the interrelationship between these phenomenon. So it appears that scientifically these religions have a much more accurate understanding of creation, the mind and phenomena than the Western religions.

As for Christ being 'the only way', Allah, Buddha, Krisna to various extremists in these faiths also have the same repetitive catchcry. Can they all be right, or only one or none in truth can be right? And of course naturally they all claim they are the one right one and the rest are wrong, conveniently because they are all faith based none can be proven absolutely as right or wrong, so they can go on arrogantly asserting that they in fact are the only right one virtually forever, or until they can be proved categorically wrong or right. Yesterday I was at the Hare Krisna's and when I asked 'so are all these people owned by Krisna?' the devotee responded with anger at my even questioning that they were. He is convinced that Krisna is the only way and chanting Krisna the only means to heaven, just as you with Jesus. Can you both be right? But of course he is wrong and you are right. And he thinks exactly the same, and how are you going to prove who is the right one and the wrong one? Both of you go back to your tired old texts to say so many thousands of years ago it was written that Krisna is god and on the other hand Jehovah created the world in 7 days. Texts that only have any validity on the basis that they have been written or inspired by God, which on any objective evidential basis have virtually no proof to justify this assertion apart from the fact that someone said it then wrote it and a lot of people have believed it for a long time as a tradition. In fact most of the old Testament is extremely violent and has a vengeful God wreaking havoc on a disloyal population - hardly unconditional love - it is the new Testament that alters that; but even that is dubious as how can love be unconditional if it states that either you accept me or you go to hell? I have even written a film on Jesus coming back and looking at the results of his handiwork - it is online you can read it - The Return of Nothing.

Yip, I am in a job centre network at the moment and I am meant to be using this computer to look for work. So I can only really continue this email if it is to obtain work. The truth is fundamentally important to me and I will not compromise it. So I am going to continue this email as a job application. Believe me I feel like Job at the moment.

http://jwhtm.blogspot.com/ my cv is here. But I can do gardening, holistic massage, basic renovations and building and general cleaning. Also food preparation and basic cooking.

But I warn you I will not compromise the truth. And Highwood would have to be capable of challenging me and I am not an easy opponent to defeat as you may have noted. In fact I believe that I have to be defeated or I can see no other alternative but to institute Project Eden as painful as it is to do so. I hope you note that the project is called after Genesis's creation because my hope is that this will fulfill prophecy from a biblical perspective as by birth I am a Christian. But in truth I feel the place I need to be at now is a theological school. My hope is that my role to play will be in beginning a new religion that will supercede East and West by bringing them and scientific progress together in a process of unification that will more clearly represent the truth to Mankind.

I am sorry if I am so blunt, but for years of placating and compromising with people and organisations, and not getting to the truth but instead being misled and in a way used, leading to not just frustration but time wasted and pain, I am having to adopt this approach. Not out of selfishness but to the contrary as I am indeed suffering by remaining where I am, but out of a determination to find the truth. And if this is what is meant by the return of Christ then let it begin now and judgement day commence.

Dear Yip,

I apologise for recontacting you, however these are important issues that I need to resolve... and perhaps you do as well? I am virtually certain I am right. If you are procrastinating in replying then you know that this is a kind of sin. I am open to your arguments refuting what I have said. However if what I have said is true then should you not assist me in creating Eden. Is this not what God wants now - the new religion? And I view this as a very positive step forward for humanity if this is true - an exponential evolution for mankind. One that maybe you have been waiting for?

From: Mr Kok Tho

Dear James,

We help sick people get well here. We do poltices, massage, dress their wounds and sores. We serve and hold them up in the arms of faith.

We do not know how to do any of the things that you want to engage us in.

Forgive us...... but I think we are not what you think we are.

From: Mr Travers

Dear Yip,

All I desire is your love.

I believe the time has come to reunify Christianity and reunite the world through unifying all the religions and science into the one truth.

You can help me by joining UOCA. By following Christ's message of love and Buddha's and Krisna's - for they lead the same way that is what I have found. But the final truth that is to be discovered by uniting them all - like the uniting of all the forces in nature in physics, which no coincidence they are through superstring theory close to unification. So too I believe with the religions of this small planet.

I appreciate you are healing the sick and grateful for your good work to people. But Christ Jesus, he healed through faith and love alone; and he asked for no money for what he did. He placed trust in God that he would be provided for. That is why it is essential for true spirituality to operate through donation - and not a deceitfully imposed donation either. If you are being true to the Christ then you will understand your sin in this regard.

I would like to meet you.

From: Mr Kok Tho

Dear James,

Sorry to disappoint you, but we are just Christian folks who have

no such global ambitions.

May God be our only strength, always.

From: Mr Travers

Maybe its time you changed.

To: Yip

Subject: Universe

Message:

From small seeds worlds do grow.

Just admit I am right.

The bible is not the literal truth. Far from it - even an inaccurate history. Biased to the Jews.

Jesus and those testaments - if you believe in them then stop charging money to heal people. You hypocrites! Jesus never charged a talent.

If you want to see real miracles then stop telling people that I am insane. Give up your addiction to the idol of mammon by being led by the beast into selling your services like a harlot. Your love means far more to me than those gold coins. Offer all that you do for free.

Then bow down to me. Only then will I show you abundance.

For today I declare judgment day. And will do so until you surrender to me.

For I am the second coming of the messiah. I am pure love.

Enlightenment?

Enlightenment - East and West both wrong