tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7391327838593142829.post3052029667281468696..comments2016-06-04T23:15:31.072-07:00Comments on Enlightenment?: Enlightenment - East and West both wrongU.O.C.A.http://www.blogger.com/profile/02513201113011030519noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7391327838593142829.post-26035166352089744162016-06-04T23:15:31.072-07:002016-06-04T23:15:31.072-07:00But thanks anyway I will check the gurus you menti...But thanks anyway I will check the gurus you mentioned.U.O.C.A.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02513201113011030519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7391327838593142829.post-72982425729247846602013-06-27T04:45:15.366-07:002013-06-27T04:45:15.366-07:00i appreciate what you say, of course we are all th...i appreciate what you say, of course we are all the messiah as i said in the article and that is what i meant at the end in my claim to messiahhood. for simple people like Yip who cling to ancient scrolls as a binding truth without any proof to give them moral protection, I understand your concept of relativity to let them remain in la la land if it makes them feel better and do good, much as encouraging a child to believe in Santa. for them it is best. i absolutely refute this approach even if it does cause them pain, because it is an insult to the truth and to their intelligence, which if confronted may increase their intellectual maturity and spiritual understanding of the world. if they are confronted and forced to defend themselves, and fail, then they may just begin to see what is the truth. and i am talking about a common perceived truth not some relativistic truth but one that we can all share in common, like accepting a table staring you in the face is a table and not an elephant. obvious truths. like the example i gave of the earth rotating round the sun, though for thousands of years the church defended a lie very avidly. and the issue of relativity is in simplicity here. of course by very complicated inane mathematics one can prove the sun goes round the earth, but far simpler to see the earth go round the sun. though for a primate it appears that the sun goes round the earth. so i would be very careful about relativistic arguments. also about being condescending to a fairly intelligent manager of a 7DA health retreat who has the intellectual ability to comprehend these things, but a refusal to make that effort because it threatens his faith, his salary and his friends and a whole plethora of misconceptions he has built up about reality that in his best interests and those surrounding him, would be better shattered and rebuilt through a more perfect truth such as www.wna.org.au U.O.C.A.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02513201113011030519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7391327838593142829.post-72805843105446816542010-05-29T13:26:51.084-07:002010-05-29T13:26:51.084-07:00Dear James
As an aspiring yogi, I appreciate your...Dear James<br /><br />As an aspiring yogi, I appreciate your quest for truth. We should all feel such pain in its absence. <br /><br />I have read with interest re- your sources of experiences and inspiration and would like to focus on one i believe has the intellectual and spiritual resources to propel your quest one or two steps (perhaps more) further toward your goals. In particular, Shrii Shrii Anandamurti. Other sources that I have not notices you mention include; Shrii Ramakrsna, and Li Hongzhi, author of Zhuan Falun. <br /><br /><br />If I be so assuming as to offer small piece of advice it would be to acknowledge the principles of relativity and consider such variations as time place and person when dealing with people. <br /><br />For examples, at certain times,in certain situations there may be great benefit in confronting people peoples beliefs on an intellectual level. No doubt,critical analysis has a role to play in the quest for truth. Nevertheless, at other times we may gain more depth of experience(at a heart level as much as a mind level) by simply appreciating a fellow traveller's limitations with patience and respect. This same sympathetic understanding can be applied internally as well as externally. <br /><br />An aide to cultivation tolerance might be to consider where we, (that is, collective humanity) are historically. As the Buddhists say, we are currently living in the period of the final havoc.<br /><br />Similarly, the plethora of schools that make up the so-called Hindu traditions suggest that we are now in the final stages of the transition from Kali Yuga (period when spiritual values are turned on their head) and poised to enter Satya Yuga( a period where spiritual values are cherished and lived by). <br /><br />At a soul level we are all messiahs, yet, pain of separation suggests that there is still a chasm to cross.<br /><br />respectfully<br />Bhiishma<br /><br />http://cakradhara.yolasite.com/bodhi963https://www.blogger.com/profile/03035552155063341561noreply@blogger.com